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Battle of the Heights: high-rise apartments proposed in Alamo Heights

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woai video thumbSAN ANTONIO – It’s a battle of the heights in Alamo Heights.

A developer wants to build a six-story apartment complex in the heart of a city where, by law, buildings are supposed to top out at about three stories. (read more and see video).

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#38 wfkiel 02-22-2013 6:25 am.
Alamo Manhattan is proposing exactly what they have been building all over the country. I doubt this was a "work backwards" exercise for them. Except for the exterior look this is the same apartment complex over again and they probably know the economics and market pretty well by now.
 
 
#37 CyberJoe 02-21-2013 5:43 pm.
Sam BH,
Why did the developer, after all these discussions to be better informed, prepare a drawing that is for a building that is 100% residential, 6 stories tall, has underground parking garage (in a flood zone) and ZERO retail ?

Seems like a bunch of meetings for nothing.

Do you think that its the old "ask for the moon" approach? Where they put the MAX they think they want approved and then work backwards to modify the plan? That's an awful lot of back and forth to drag something out.

None of the justifications for this developers approach to meet with a few select citizens makes any rational sense.

Thanks for trying.
 
 
#36 Sam BH 02-21-2013 2:22 pm.
Cyber Joe
I wouldn't get to worked up about who talks to who. I visit with a councilman once a week. Many citizens are quietly involved. Just because you do not know about every meeting and every conversation, you should not get upset.

I think the developer was very wise to reach out to citizens in this community to get a sense of how their project would be perceived. It is a good way to find out the lay or the land.
 
 
#35 Sarah 02-21-2013 1:19 am.
Roger, the developer has made one presentation and revised it based on input from the meetings they held. Why would they be making any more revisions until they get input from us? Unless of course they are reading the paper, watching TV, and looking at the blog. ;-)

Another lawsuit? Over what? They don't have any drive-up tellers. By the way, why has Kopplow been allowed to let those buildings sit there and deteriorate? Don't we have any ordinances against that?
 
 
#34 Admin 02-21-2013 1:06 am.
Why are some of your comments not published?

1) They do not adhere to the guidelines listed.

2) Do not log in under several different names and comment on your own comment.

3) State only fact and/or your opinion, do not state something as fact and show no reference to this fact.

4) Do not state a city official's position/opinio n unless this city official has publicly announced their position on a subject.
 
 
#33 Sarah 02-20-2013 7:24 pm.
It was MY fault. If you go back and follow the remarks on the other thread, Peggy asked 2 questions, and I jumped in with the wrong answer on the second one. Elliot came in to give the correct answer to Peggy. He was brief and to the point, and then told everybody about the meeting. Then he left, and after all the blasting, he probably turned off the computer and found a good book. I remember when Louis and Bobby came on after the election, and whamo got blasted, and we will never see them again either.
 
 
#32 Roger P 02-20-2013 6:32 pm.
Also, I think we should all hold off and wait and see what the developer presents on the 26 Feb at the public hearing, including our elected officials.

I would hate to see the city get in another lawsuit!
 
 
#31 CyberJoe 02-20-2013 5:13 pm.
WFK,
I'm glad Weser commented on it.
Why did Cooper give you a special audience with the developer & property owner before council saw it?
Where do you get your certainty about what people think and why? Have you actually talked to Weser?
How do you know what the rest of council thinks?
 
 
#30 wfkiel 02-20-2013 2:25 pm.
CyberJoe,
Have you asked yourself why Weser waited so long to comment on the Ausway project? He's known about it for over a month but only decided yesterday to post his displeasure about the project.

He did this because the story had broken and he knew how unpopular the project would be. He couldn't stand having people think he supported it so he tried to jump to the front of the parade.

Other council members and Mayor Cooper have kept their mouths shut because they understand the role they play. Their job is to be objective and not comment or grandstand on an issue before it has come to them. It would be like a judge commenting of a case before a verdict is rendered. Councilman Weser apparently has not learned that lesson.
 
 
#29 Patriot 02-20-2013 10:51 am.
CJ - here we go with a rumor mill. Do you know how much the taxes for AHISD will be on this project ? If so would you share that amount with us? How is it going to effect the quality of education, pleas give examples.

This appears to be a very broad brush statement.

Cyber Joe said "In 10 years or 20 years this project is a DISASTER for AHISD. The annual taxes on this thing won't even cover the costs for the additional teacher salaries the kids living in this building will require the district to hire. Terrell Hills & Heights, Olmos Park, and Oak Park residents need to all be alerted to this too. Its going to affect the quality of the schools in a big way.
 
 
#28 Patriot 02-20-2013 10:44 am.
Cyber Joe - I am glad that Mr. Kiel was able to visit with developers just like some others. I think it is great that Mr. Kiel also took the time to share info and update us. Does it really matter who talked to the developer, aren't we all trying to work together for the greater good of our city.

I am sure the developers respect Mr. Kiel and hold is opinion in hight regard even though they may not agree sometimes.
Mr. Kiel has always been brutally honest, open to ideas, willing to work with everyone. He has no agendas and does not play games. Thus earning him respect of others.
 
 
#27 Sarah 02-20-2013 9:10 am.
You were right Bill, it is here and the opponents to the petition were wrong. But now that it's here, I'm not so sure it will get past City Council. Everybody they showed it to however, politely non-responded and they moved forward. They should have showed it to me first if they wanted an indication of what the community would do. I would have shouted REMEMBER THE ALAMO REMEMBER GOLIAD! and ripped the drawings from their hands and gone screaming straight to the schoolhouse and the blog.
 
 
#26 wfkiel 02-20-2013 4:50 am.
CyberJoe,
I waited to give them time to change it. They didn't.

I'm cooperative because I want a good project to be proposed. This is not it, but I think the developer is capable of coming up with one.

They probably talked to me because of my strong concerns about high rises from the past.

I'm sure the AHNA, Weser and Joseph are against this high rise now but they sure weren't two years ago when they opposed the charter amendment to limit the height of high rises.

Where were you on that vote?
 
 
#25 CyberJoe 02-19-2013 9:10 pm.
Surely the AHNA are against this albatross.
Its a disaster of epic proportions.

In 10 years or 20 years this project is a DISASTER for AHISD. The annual taxes on this thing won't even cover the costs for the additional teacher salaries the kids living in this building will require the district to hire. Terrell Hills & Heights, Olmos Park, and Oak Park residents need to all be alerted to this too. Its going to affect the quality of the schools in a big way.
 
 
#24 CyberJoe 02-19-2013 9:07 pm.
i agree its curious that the pubic meeting is not on the city calendar. I tried to look it up on the city calendar this weekend. it wasn't there. tre bizarre.
 
 
#23 CyberJoe 02-19-2013 9:06 pm.
wfk - you waited to talk about it until they told you you could??!! since when are you so cooperative with the developers? how come they invited you to meet with them? odd. did they invite any other citizens to meet privately? sounds like you are being used or played. either way, aren't you being awfully cooperative? what's up with that? I thought you were on our side? wow. this is a turn of events.
 
 
#22 Patriot 02-19-2013 10:22 am.
Wonder where Tom Harmon and AHNA stand regarding this project?
 
 
#21 wfkiel 02-18-2013 5:27 pm.
I'm curious why the City website doesn't mention the Public Hearing of the proposed Ausway Project on it's "Upcoming Events" (Feb. 26). Especially since they announced it at a council meeting a week ago. Maybe they are waiting for the email blast they said they'd do.
 
 
#20 Sarah 02-18-2013 3:14 pm.
Tom, that CP is detailed enough to show what we should do if we do do anything.
 
 
#19 Tom T 02-18-2013 12:34 pm.
Sarah
The CP is a guide, a vision. The items in the CP does not mean that is what is going to built or have to built. The biggest thing to come out of the CP is that people would like to mix use development.

As far a Weser goes, he talks about downtown development, but look how went after Chase bank and Dr. West.
 
 
#18 wfkiel 02-18-2013 10:11 am.
I should have said " it wasn't economic..."
 
 
#17 wfkiel 02-18-2013 10:10 am.
Sarah,
I asked Kopplow about the boutique hotel. he said it was economic being so far from a freeway and downtown. Too bad.
 
 
#16 Tom T 02-18-2013 8:45 am.
Sarah
You would have to ask the property owners this question.

Regarding the City's CP, all it takes is political will by elected officials and follow through and enforcement by staff. It starts with council's leadership and political will to follow through on the CP. The only staff person that is using the CP is Mr. Chandler.

Sarah 02-16-2013 5:26 pm.
Tom T, back in 2004 the same owners had plans to put a boutique hotel there. What happened to that idea?
http://www.bizjournals.com/sanantonio/stories/2004/05/17/story1.html?page=all
 
 
#15 wfkiel 02-18-2013 5:55 am.
The documents I published came from a standard PIA request.

Also included were emails between the developer and City staff and officials. It appears the project has been in the works with the City for about 4 months (Nov. 2012).
I was asked by the mayor and the developers to see the project on Jan 16, 2013. I waited to talk about it until they were ready to make a public presentation.

Sorry, nothing very cyber about it.
 
 
#14 CyberJoe 02-17-2013 8:17 pm.
Where did the drawings and diagrams come from?
How did you get this info Bill?
I'm glad you published it.
The Dallas News reported last April (2012) in an interview with the company spokesperson that this developer had been looking for was looking for land in San Antonio, Austin and Houston for some time. Wonder when they first talked to the Mayor and Mr. Kopplow?
 
 
#13 Sarah 02-17-2013 9:35 am.
Bill I sincerely hope you are right in fulfilling our dreams for downtown development, but this project has already been seen by every councilman (by 2's to avoid a quorum), and the city manager, and the revised plan is still 6 stories tall. How many citizens will show up for the special meeting? Are there any emails in the correspondence you got from your PIA that object to the height? What has this council done to date that follows the Comprehensive Plan?
 
 
#12 wfkiel 02-17-2013 4:54 am.
Sarah (#8)
The current project IS six stories but it should be 2 - 4 stories based on the Comprehensive Plan. The vote I referred to was for City Council, not the project.

For this upcoming election I suggest we find out if the candidates really support the CP or developers and out-of-town commercial property owners.
 
 
#11 Sarah 02-17-2013 1:00 am.
Matt, in that area the CP is very specific about something else that wasn't relayed to the developers, that should be done at the same time:
http://www.alamoheightstx.gov/news/12%20public%20realm.pdf

Public Realm, page 49
Broadway at Austin Highway: The "Y"
Although the design charrette process recommended a round-about at this location, further study by the traffic engineer determined that straightening the roadway intersection to form a more equal balance of the three legs of traffic would create a more pedestrian-frie ndly, dynamic
space with opportunities to create focal point buildings to both the north and the west. The proposed design would also feature the historic Mobile Station as the focal point for southbound traffic on Broadway.

Street Section Standards
Right of Way Width = 106 feet;
Traffic = 4 lanes;
Lane Width = 11 feet for each;
Median = 14 feet with left turn lane;
Parking = 8 feet (parallel on both sides of street);
Sidewalk & Planting = 16 feet (with planting and a bike lane)
 
 
#10 Sarah 02-16-2013 6:57 pm.
Matt, this is not what the CP is about at this intersection.
Public Realm, page 49, Broadway at Austin Highway: The "Y"

Take a look at the drawing on that page. "Although the design charrette process recommended a round-about at this location, further study by the traffic engineer determined that straightening the roadway intersection to form a more equal balance of the three legs of traffic would create a more pedestrian-frie ndly, dynamic space with opportunities to create focal point buildings to both the north and the west. The proposed design would also feature the historic Mobile Station as the focal point for southbound traffic on Broadway."
 
 
#9 Sarah 02-16-2013 5:26 pm.
Tom T, back in 2004 the same owners had plans to put a boutique hotel there. What happened to that idea?
http://www.bizjournals.com/sanantonio/stories/2004/05/17/story1.html?page=all
 
 
#8 Sarah 02-16-2013 5:19 pm.
Bill are you now saying this isn't 6 stories and does not take up that entire space? What do you mean we can vote? The highrise petition failed. This does not require the vote of the citizens it requires the council to vote on a SUP.
 
 
#7 Matt D 02-16-2013 1:21 pm.
This is exactly what the CP is about.

If you don't like it, then buy the land and develop it yourself, other wise give the developer a chance to develop HIS property.

Like Kiel said let it go through the process and give your input.
 
 
#6 Tom T 02-16-2013 1:01 pm.
Sarah said "The City hasn't been able to figure out downtown development yet,...."
Sarah the city has never had a owner that wanted to redevelop their property. Look at the condition of all the downtown properties. Now that the city has a owner that is wanting to redevelop their property people are against it. That is why nothing gets done.

Mr. Kiel is right people need to give their input and work together. Alamo Heights could be a great place if only people will work together.
 
 
#5 wfkiel 02-16-2013 7:10 am.
Sarah,
We start by offering alternative ideas. That can include NOT building anything at all but I'd rather not lose this opportunity.

You've mentioned in the past that we have ignored the Comprehensive Plan. Why not push for a project that adheres to the CP. If the first development project does that, then it will be easier for other projects to follow. We also need to start changing the City codes to allow CP supported projects.

To have an impact we must first be informed ourselves and then we must communicate to our elected officials our concerns and ideas. We do this through hearings, emails, blogs, etc.

And remember, there is always the vote.
 
 
#4 Sarah 02-15-2013 7:40 pm.
Bill, I'm not sure what you mean by working together to move the Ausway project in a direction to fulfill our dreams for downtown development, and this is the start. The City hasn't been able to figure out downtown development yet, so we have ended up with a developer being two months into conversations and drawings with the City about a 6 story high rise at a major intersection. Just how do you think we can keep this from happening? The City Council has it within their power to issue this SUP and it doesn't matter what we think.
 
 
#3 Tom T 02-15-2013 4:07 pm.
Like it. "looking Ahead" and move forward. Work together to get it down.
 
 
#2 wfkiel 02-15-2013 3:43 pm.
Sarah,
The project is no longer on that time table and I don't believe it was ever realistic. I've looked at all email correspondence between the City and the developers and have found nothing irregular. They have pursued the process laid out by City regulations. Communications with Council were done without quorums and I doubt there were any open meetings violation.

At this point we need to work together to move the Ausway project in a direction to fulfill our dreams for downtown development. This is the start.
 
 
#1 Sarah 02-15-2013 2:59 pm.
The City has known about this project for months longer than they appear. Brian Chandler sent out a detailed memo to the developers and copied the City Manager and the Mayor on December 20, with the recommended Ausway timeline. It is very fast track, and they expect P&Z recommend SUP for 6 stories on March 4, City Council to approve it and convey the City Property on March 6, BEFORE it is reviewed by BOA and ARB.
 

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